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and killed an mit police officer in the head and then tried to rob a 7-eleven. pete williams reports they later car-jacked a suv near the mit campus and keeping the car's owner at gun point and releasing the person unharmed later. >> police followed that car to watertown as is in lockdown right now. the suspects at that point threw explosive devices from their car. at some point during the standoff, they had at least one pressure cooker bomb similar to the ones used in the marathon bombing. one suspect killed in the shoot-out. the one in the black hat. he reportedly then was run over and when police approached his body, they discovered an ied strapped to his chest. witnesses reporting hearing explosions, massive gun battle between the suspects and police. here is what adam kitzenberg told us not long ago. >> i went to the window and right outside of our apartment, there were two shooters in between a sedan and a black mercedes-benz suv. and they were in between these two cars taking cover behind the black suv, shooting down our street which is laurel street and they were shooting wes
of them citing boston pd. others citing federal sources. our own pete williams has taken a break from us to work the phones himself, and is now ready to speak us to in our washington bureau. pete, what do you know and what can we say? >> what we've been told by several source says there is no arrest. then it begins to break down from there, about whether -- let's start at the other end. what do they know? they believe they have video that shows what they were looking for. a person setting down a black nylon bag at the scene of one of the bombings and walking away. now as we go toward the other end of that, we have two conflicting source is on whether, you know, they see that person, they look at the face. do they know who it is or not? someone says yes, they are trying to find him. other sources say no, they are trying to figure out who it is. which is it, i don't know. i will say throughout this, from the beginning of this, this has been the hall mark of this story. that information that is pointing in totally different direction says coming from normally very dependable sources and you
of m.i.t. i want to bring in now nbc news justice correspondent pete williams, who's been in touch with his law enforcement sources on this story all night. pete, what can you tell us? >> well, i guess there's several things we're trying to nail down. i guess the big question here now is who are they? we've heard from a couple of officials that they don't have a positive identification on them, but they've been tentatively identified. they believe, at least it's the initial assessment of the two law enforcement people i've talked to, that they came to the u.s. about a year ago. we don't know precisely from where. they may have some -- a bit of military experience overseas, which could possibly explain their facility with explosives. and that is our operating assumption right now. it appears that this all started when they tried to rob a 7-eleven tonight. a policeman responded. they killed the policeman. that set off all this whole chain of events to the carjacking, to the point that one of them stopped the car in watertown, massachusetts. the other got out with an improvised bomb s
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. i want to bring now in nbc's justice correspondent pete williams live in washington now. >> reporter: well a couple of things. number one, we have heard that one police officer was killed earlier tonight. and now, we hear there may have been a second police officer killed. we have one report about that. as for the two people who were arrested tonight -- or the two, let's use the suspects related to this incident here, we know that one is in custody, and we believe now that we have had at least one report that the other, authorities up there, may be dead. i think they're trying to confirm that now. they don't know for sure. and that's one of the reasons you earlier saw that report that they wanted people to stay in their homes and lock their doors. another possibility is they're looking for a third suspect. i think that, as more little bit of information come in here, the scale is tipping more and more in the direction of that these arrests are -- or this action tonight is related to the boston bombings. and we're just waiting to get some confirmation here. just a growing sense here t
's justice correspondent pete williams who has the latest on the suspects and the investigation. pete, good morning again to you. >> reporter: good morning, savann savannah. we've been told the names of these told. we're told that they're brothers. they've been in the united states for at least a year. one of them was living in the cambridge area. we're told that the man with the white hat, the one on the left, the one who is still at large, the one who is the reason for all of this police activity and this extraordinary lockdown in boston and the suburbs is 19 year old tsarnaev. he has a massachusetts driver's license. is a resident of cambridge. we don't know the first name of his brother. they obviously came here many months ago, at least a year ago. the other thing is it bears repeating, savannah, that all this started thursday night not because the fbi was moving into arrest them. there was no tactical operation planned. five hours after the fbi showed their pictures. they were not about to arrest them. five hours after the pictures became public, they apparently decided to make a run
but perhaps the only thing they can do to try and find the second suspect. let's go to nbc's pete williams with more on this. pete? authorities have not released any names. they say they're still trying to positively identify them. they believe that they've been in the u.s. for about a year, that they have some foreign military experience, and the boston police commissioner, ed david, said a short time ago of the man with the white hat, that he believes this man to be a terrorist who has come here to kill people, is the way he put it, mika. >> okay. willie geist joins us. willie, jump in. >> pete, it's willie. as you say, these two suspects believed to have been here as long as a year. do we know in what capacity? were they students? do we know anything about why they've been here? >> presumably students. we don't have the answer to that. they're still trying to tentatively -- they're still waiting to get the positive identification. we don't know the precise nature of what the visa was or how they entered the u.s. >> as you say, a remarkable lockdown here. we're talking about the commuter
now, nbc news justice correspondent, pete williams. pete, what do we know about their ability to communicate with him and about the legal steps that they will be taking? >> well, their ability to communicate with him is limited, because of this injury he has, his injuries are pretty serious. ehe's said to be in serious but stable condition. he's on a ventilator. they can't engage in a conversation with him, which is what they had hoped to do. it's something we're told that they do for brief periods because of his condition. it's written questions. it's written answers. nods. that kind of thing. so it's not a very, what you'd call a very robust conversation. >> what about the charges, arraignment charges? what is the legal process going forward? >> well, it's a little hard to tell, andrea, quite candidly. you know, my suspicion is not confirmed, but my suspicion is just reading all of the various signs and tea leaves, is that the charges have probably already been filed under seal. and why that is, i don't know, whether they're you know normally in the government when you, when
to bring in pete williams, who's also standing by for us in washington, d.c. and pete, i understand that there was an initial positive test, but there's really no way to know whether it's really ricin until additional testing is done. >> ever since the anthrax mailings, no mail has gone directly to the white house, capitol hill and many other government offices. it's all sent to off site facilities to test it for various things. both facilities gave an initial positive for a poison called ricin. there were subsequent tests, they were conflicting. but you can't really know for sure what it is until it's sent to a lab and cultured and then you look under a mike scope to see what it is. now, we have seen events in the past, craig, ice ricin is made tr castor beans and someone will just take dried beans and grind them up and put them in a letter. now, that will test positive for ricin even though there's no ricin there. i guess it would be like the difference between poppies and opium. they're related, but it's not the same thing. so you won't know whether it's ricin until later today i
things, please pass along information to us. bill bratton in our london bureau tonight. pete williams, our justice correspondent, continues to make calls and report this story out from our washington bureau. pete, what do you have? >> reporter: well, i was struck by what the police commissioner said about urging people to stay home. the fact that there seemed to be at least as far as his information goes two separate incidents and two separate places in boston. one at the scene of the marathon, the other at the jfk library. and we also have seen a number of local communities raise their sort of alert level, putting more people on the street. and i'm assured, though, by a couple of federal officials that i've talked to that they're not -- this is not happening because of some additional information that something else is going on that we don't know about. that these -- that the department of homeland security, for example, an official there tells me it has not put out any kind of an advisory urging local communities to be on a higher level of alert. that what we're seeing around town o
and taken into custody and that the other one perhaps got away. i want to go to pete williams in washington, d.c. pete, what can you tell us about what's happening here this evening? >> el with, i think there's ample reason to think what we're seeing h ining here is connecte boston marathon bombing. number one, we know that the fbi was very interested in this part of massachusetts based on the initial information they had gathered and some of the tips they had received. this is not that coincidence. there was a great deal of interest beyond the mere fact that this suburb is near -- in the same state of massachusetts and not far from boston. so that's the first thing. secondly, we have seen and we're not reporting the names yet. but we have seen the names of the two people that we believe have been arrested there. one of them was a name that the fbi was very interested in tracing down based on a couple of factors, including the fact that the fbi had received a number of tips based on people looking at the pictures saying that one of the suspects looked very much like this person. so it was a
brought to your doorstep. >>> to our justice correspondent we go once again. pete williams in our washington bureau. pete, it probably bears repeating at this point while people may be seeing other aspects of security at their local airport train station, no reason to think this is anything beyond the boylston street bombings that we saw in boston. >> reporter: that's right. according to the officials i have talked to tonight, brian. of course they are still trying to figure out precisely what it was that happened in boston. we know that there were two bombs, but they are still saying there might have been others planted along the route of the marathon. packages found on the street were deemed suspicious and were being destroyed tonight. we still have not heard any firm confirmation of whether at least the five other packages actually were explosive devices, although some officials say there is reason to think they were. there is no suspect in custody. but people are very interested in questioning a young person with a student visa who has burns and was seen by witnesses running f
, there were 100,000 users on it at the same time last night. pete williams justice correspondent in washington, has been also seeking for information on what it is that we may be watching here, pete? >> well, in an event like this, brian, sometimes it takes a time for the reports to get here to headquarters. what we have been told is, that the word is, shots fired. that was the first information that came back here and the second was, body found in a boat. now, i heard that you were told that this location is right here the water. so, it's not clear to me whether the boat is in the water or the boat is in somebody's garage or somebody's backyard being stored. and in any event, i think the telling word is body. body found in a boat. and they as you know have sent in the swat teams and the bomb teams, i assume as a precaution, just to make sure that the situation is over. but we don't have are an identity on the body. we don't know who it is. or whether the body is the result of the shooting. that would seem to be the logical conclusion. >> pete, right where they are in watertown, the charles ri
the senator's office. let's begin this hour with nbc justice correspondent pete williams and former cia counterterrorism director larry johnson. two best guests we could have. pete, let's go back to that picture we just saw from whdh up there, boston affiliate of nbc. what are the experts making of the fact that it was there, that bag, whatever it is sitting there before the explosion and then in this picture taken afterwards you can see the smoke trailing up to the left there diagonally? what does that tell us? >> it tells us it's something they're investigating, chris. they know, they believe very strongly that the bombs were brought to the scene in backpacks. but i think it's fair to say they're looking at whether after they got there, they put them in these shopping bags. now, that thing next to the -- to the bag that's just on the edge of the little spot shot circle there, that is a trash receptacle. could it be? it's a question. could it be the devices were placed in these trash bags next to trash receptacles to look inconspicuous? it's something that they're -- that they're study
. >> lester holt in watertown, mississippi. before we go to pete williams, one question for richard engel. by the fact you have been around so many weapons and fire fights over the past ten years of your life. if you have been around any weapons, listening to the audio you can almost tell which ones are the .9mm reports and which one are the versions of the m-4 rifle. since the good guys had had, let's assume, laser sights, night vision, but also these good guys are not used to active connective fire fights. i'm surprised it didn't end with two dead suspects. >> i'm surprised it didn't end right there with that much gunfire. clearly there was a lot going down. you saw that one high velocity round that wednesday through the wall and soon in the reporter's calendar on the wall. how the other brother wasn't hit and wasn't killed in the scene is very remarkable. but if he was going fast and there was lots of cars in the way and it was nighttime, somebody missed him. >> nobody is finding fault. goodness knows it's the fog of war in an suburban environment. as promised to d.c. we go and pete wi
. joining me -- pete, first to you, what are we learning about these letters and the possibility of ricin? >> the possibility is the word, andrea. sent from a single person in mississippi, authorities believe they know who has done this. they've questioned that -- and they're waiting to see what the results are on them. ricin is made from castor beans. we've seen this happen in the past, someone will grind up castor beans, put them in an envelope, and that will trip the indicators that are looking for ricin, sort of like the difference between opium and poppies. they come from the same thing, but they're not the same thing. so they have these preliminary tests that -- for the last decade, no mail goes directly to the white house or lots of other government buildings. they have these -- they can't know for certainly until it's cultured, then they'll examine it. there may be more than these letters. whether it really contains ricin or not, we probably won't know until probably the very earliest later today or tomorrow. >> there are, there was a letter to saginaw, michigan office of carl lev
. and for the very latest on the investigation, we're joined now by nbc news justice correspondent pete williams from washington. so, pete, the very latest on the pressure cooker scenario that you're hearing? >> right. as you say, used for decades in terms of building bombs, so that's not going to be an area of inquiry that will immediately lead them in a certain direction, because the instructions, unfortunately, for making these devices are all over internet. just last month, the al qaeda online magazine "inspire" repeated an article that showed how to build pressure cooker bombs. so they've been out there for a long time. the part, the components of this device appear not to be very fancy. in addition to that, there were shrapnel, ball bearings, bbs, from the sound of the doctors you heard at the beginning of your program, apparently nails as well. and then for the explosive basically gun powder, smokeless powder that's commonly available in sporting goods stores. so all these pieces are easily available. some kind of timer as well. then placed in black sacks and put in two different spots. so wha
are looking for a younger brother and a possible accomplice. let's bring in nbc justice correspondent, pete williams. this is a quickly developing situation. how many people are the police looking for right now? >> i think they're not sure. i think we can say probably three. dzhokah tsarnaev, the person who is the man with the white hat and the marathon bombing on monday. for sure. and then possibly as many as two others. people that are described to us as possible accomplices. the authorities think that they may be in the area. that's one of the reasons for this extraordinary request that all boston residents stay home and off the streets. leaving the city looking pretty much like the day the earth stood still. and they also found a bomb this morning in boston. that was safely disposed of. so you put those factors together, and that is the explanation we're told for why this extraordinary security regime in which people not only in watertown, where they think that satsarnaev is still holed somewhere, possibly where everybody has been gathering and also in the boston area, shutting down the
that followed after that. now it's been silent. we have not heard more shots. clearly as pete pointed out they do believe this is, indeed the suspect. somebody who's been on the run. if he had been in the area he's somehow made his way probably about a half mile, assuming he went straight and that's unlikely. but a half mile over to where he is throughout the night and in the day. that would have been a very difficult thing considering there are so many police officers here. they have been sweeping the streets and in the backyards asking residents not to come out but to report anything. in fact, the police have been going into homes. it will be interesting if we can figure out how he made his way over to the location he's at. unless they were initially looking in the wrong place. they thought he was up the street here about four streets up and then down to the right. it's quite a distance he had to make his way over there. it's night. he may be wounded. the authorities have night vision goggles. they can see what's happening. they have him surrounded. the big question is -- is he wired? i
and i and pete williams and i have been theorizing it's likely, knowing how these guys work, they will not use light for the takedown itself. you see an fbi agent getting out of the latest car to arrive. this flash-bang technology, if that explains pops people heard other than gunfire, they are a briefly devastating weapon that can just take hold of your senses and leave the suspect blinded and deafened momentarily while people move in. closed space. i have seen them used outdoors in a courtyard, a wartime backdrop in afghanistan. they are very effective. just told we have another guest. clint van zant, fbi veteran profiler. what can you add, clint? >> well, as you know my background is as a hostage negotiator. having been in similar situations like this working with tactical teams, this is a hand in glove operation. the negotiator is on the scene. he or she will be working hard to extend a hand and allows this individual to come out. with the potential explosive device of something inside the best case scenario would be for the negotiator to get the subject to come over the
, it appears they have pictures of their suspect. our justice correspondent pete williams has been following the investigation all day. he's in our d.c. newsroom tonight. pete, good evening. >> reporter: brian, good evening. the fbi is pursuing very promising leads. one in particular tonight thanks to the abundance of pictures and videos rounded up in the two days since the bombing. we are getting a close-up look at how the bombs were made. >> guys, guys, guys. no way. >> reporter: the fbi says it is getting exactly what it asked for. pictures from several sources showing someone carrying a heavy backpack or duffel bag and placing it at the spot where one bomb went off. one of the most promising images, they say, comes from a department store surveillance camera high up on a building, able to look down at the crowd. on a day when incorrect news reports of an arrest distracted officials, investigators were working aggressively to discover, find, and interview that person. that's at the scene of the second bombing following the first by about 15 seconds. it's that second spot shown on this pic
an attack in new york's times square. justice correspondent pete williams has more for us. >> reporter: investigators say they've been told that while the bombing suspects were fleeing from boston in an suv they carjacked last thursday night they came up with the idea of driving to new york, taking along a half dozen bombs they had with them. >> in the car they made a decision to go to new york with the remaining explosive devices that they had and to detonate it -- detonate one or more in times square. >> reporter: police say one of the men, dzhokhar tsarnaev, had visited times square at least once last year. whatever plans they had came to nothing thursday night when police caught up with them in watertown. this photo shows that suv after the shootout with police. now new questions about whether the interrogation of the surviving suspect was stopped too soon. the chairman of the house intelligence committee has been told that a judge came to the hospital to read dzhokhar his rights before interrogators were done questioning him. >> that's dangerous and concerning especially when the
pete williams from washington and nbc's kristen welker at the white house. pete, i'm going to start with you. what are we expecting to hear at this fbi briefing within the next hour? >> we're going to hear, i believe, why they're interested in these two particular people. what it is they've done. what they can be seen doing that attracts their attention and raises their interest and why they want to find and talk to them. they know what they look like. they know what they were doing. the fbi has always thought that the bombs were carried to the scene in black nylon duffel bags or backpacks. they an see on these pictures the men, these two men carrying heavy backpack and duffel bag. they believe the bombs were relatively heavy, probably around 20 pounds. they were in the vicinity of where the bombs were found. so, where they were set off. so they want to find them. they don't know who they are, and they're going to ask for public assistance, we believe, in identifying the men. and you may remember that they asked for both photos and video. so it's certainly possible that we'll see bo
'm sorry, let me interrupt you for one moment. pete williams is reporting there is a foyer sapphiris a is fire . there is a fire in a boat in the backyard of a home in cambridge. you see there on the screen. that is the boat. that boat where suspect number two in the boston marathon bombings is believed to be pinned down and trapped at the moment. dzhokar tsarnaev. he and his brother, it appears, we believe, a shootout with the police in the wee hours of the morning. and last night. that resulted in the death of his older brother, 26-year-old tamerlan tsarnaev. dzhokar appears to be in the boat in the back of that house. now that boat is on fire. there is tremendous amount of police presence. that convergent intensified in just the last hour in the wake of a police press conference lifting the request for people to stay inside and just a little bit after that, a rush of police into the area and an explosion of gunfire. joining us on the phone is rebecca kraeger. he backyard looks into the yard where everything is happening. rebecca with, can you tell me what you're seeing? >> right n
wes moore and "mother jones" msnbc political analyst, david corn and msnbc justice correspondent, pete williams. let's talk about the latest on this case. the fact that senator graham is suggesting that the fbi may not have had the tools it needed to effectively get these terrorists before the attacks happened. what are the legal ramifications of this discovery, that the tsarnaev brothers may not have acted in concert with a terrorist network? >> legal ramifications, i can't think of any, policy ramifications, i can. i think that what we're going to see here is a question raised about what should happen when country a contacts the united states and says, we think this person here may be a terrorist. can you please look into that. that would raise one question right there -- should the mere fact that another government has contacted us about someone, somehow be memorialized somehow in a potential terror database or a watch list. and then question two is, regardless of what the fbi or any other agency finds out in a subsequent investigation here, if that person then goes to country a, sh
. our justice correspondent pete williams has been working this story all day. pete, what can you tell us tonight? >> tonight authorities confirm that there were two bombs. we know that much. but it's unclear how many others were planted. they say there were other suspicious packages. and the word, of course, of another bomb elsewhere placed at the jfk library is apparently turning out not to be true. at least five other packages have been found on the street, have been deemed suspicious and are being destroyed. but there is no firm confirmation of whether they were actually explosive devices although some officials tonight say there is reason to think that some of them were. we are told, by the way, that one of the two victims killed in the explosion was 8 years old. boston police say there was no specific intelligence warning of any kind of attack. federal officials tonight say there is no reason to think that this is part of any larger threat. at this point they believe it is confined to boston. but a meeting tonight will decide whether any kind of national alert will be sent out. t
in studio here had just had a report from pete williams, i guess, from nbc. >> pete williams from nbc is reporting that these gentlemen are legal, permanent residents. they have been in the country for at least a year. so they could possibly be from turkey or czechoslavakia or check knee czhenia. >> with the cools in the area they have been there on a student visa or who knows? >> that's very possible. : during the press briefing today, boston fwlooeings commissioner, edward davis says he believes the circulating nurse expect who was killed and probably the other suspect as well is indeed a terrorist and that they were in fact, and i quote, they believe this man to this man to be here to kill people. whether he is part of a terrorist group or not, stand by, wait until this person is captured and we will get more. i knew you follow the scanner. talking to again, ron -- i'm sorry agrella. sorry, ron. editor of there were reports we heard earlier, too, monitoring all of this, that it seemed that there was a lot of police activity focused on one
know something, were gathering new evidence to make this case. pete williams remains on the case for us and starts us off from our d.c. newsroom tonight. pete, good evening. >> reporter: brian, good evening. legal sources say tonight that prosecutors and lawyers for the surviving bomb suspect, dzhokhar tsarnaev, have begun very early discussions about a possible deal in which he could avoid the death penalty in return for a full accounting to the fbi of what happened and why, as investigators continue working to find those answers for themselves. in rhode island today an fbi team conducted a search at the house where tamerlan tsarnaev's widow, catherine, has been living since the bombing. she has said she was shocked by the attack and had no idea he was planning it. law enforcement officials say they took a sample of her dna to compare to female dna found on a piece of the pressure cooker from one of the bombs, but they caution it could have come from employees at the stores where the parts were bought. u.s. officials confirm reports that it was a russian wiretap of tamerlan tsarnaev's
in boston. nbc's pete williams has been following the investigation in d.c. all day. pete, good evening. >> brian, good evening. still so many questions, but one has been answered, how many explosive devices were left at the scene. that answer is two. and officials describe them as crudely made but effectively used. and as of tonight, no suspects, no idea who did it or why. >> reporter: investigators have begun the process of recovering tiny pieces of the bombs to learn how they were made. they say it appears the devices were assembled inside pressure cooker pots similar to this one packed with bbs, ball bearings and nails to magnify the injury. as these homeland security bulletins note, pressure cookers have been used for decades in terror bombings. instructions for making them appear on the internet including just last month in an al qaeda magazine "inspire." investigators say the explosive in boston was most likely smokeless powder, gunpowder like this, available at sporting goods store, not something more powerful like dynamite. and they believe the bombs were carried to the scene i
's events. pete williams nbc's justice correspondent is on the line as well. i'm sorry, i said there were two confirmed dead, it's three confirmed dead in the incident now. bill keithing is joining us with and reporters there on scene today. the bottom line is 113 wounded by blasts, at least three people killed. and in boston today, as you know today is the boston marathon, and the boston marathon is held on a state holiday in massachusetts only that's called patriot's day. and that always makes today a different kind of day than the rest of the year. but driving through boston tonight to get here to get to mass general, it's eerie. it's eerie in boston tonight that even with all of the security response that we've got right now, there's just nobody out. and obviously people are doing that and staying at home in order to respect the wishes of law enforcement authorities who are telling people essentially to stay out of the way while the investigation continues. as we get further details on the investigation, boston is left to confront the fact that with everything planned, with everything
correspondent pete williams is standing by. i am just reading information that you put in regarding the components of this bomb and what authorities believe was used to make the explosives. what can you tell me? >> they say they were crudely made. that doesn't mean that they weren't powerful and they were. they were made with gunpowder, bbs and ball bearings packed inside a pressure cooker. let me point to a picture from a homeland security bulletin. we're going to get in real tight on these little pots down here. this is what pressure cookers look like. give it a second to focus and see how much tighter we can get. these are what pressure cookers look like in case you haven't seen them. these are rather inexpensive pressure cookers. in case you've not ever dealt with one. a pot with a cover on it that you can make basically air tight and food cooks faster. and then for at least a decade, they've been used to make bombs around the world. so inside is the explosive and the authorities believe it is gunpowder or smokeless powder. all these parts are commonly available. so someone coul
to the media-generated chaos. joining us now, pete williams, who i should tell you, is in the same building i am in but is at another camera because he needs to be close to his desk phone. it truly is that kind of day in the news, pete. thank you very much for being here. >> you bet. >> what do we know about what authorities have been able to find from combing through the pictures and videos in the two days since the bombing? >> well, i think you've summarized it well. the holy grail for them was to see someone setting down a heavy backpack or duffel bag, a black nylon bag, that they believe this relatively heavy bomb was carried in. they think it weighed about 20 pounds, setting it down at the scene of one or the other of the bombings, and then getting away. they believe they have found a picture like that, first from the store surveillance camera that you noted, but they since have been able to triangulate that or get other views of it from other pictures and recordings that people who are in the area have sent them. people who have sent them pictures not knowing what exactly was to be foun
. >> all right, kerry sanders at the scene. thank you. we want to turn to justice correspondent pete williams who's got new information on the suspects and the search as we reset for our viewers on the west coast. pete, please bring us up to date. >> okay. the two people that set this off this morning were not being sought by the fbi. that's not what triggered these events. they were not about to be swooped down on by a s.w.a.t. team. five hours after the fbi showed the pictures of the men at the marathon on the monday is when the chain of events began. they robbed a 7-eleven, shot a campus police officer, took a man at gun point and took his debit card and tried to use it several times. they kept him in the car. when they realized they weren't getting money that way they let him go and that led police to watertown and the subsequent shootout in which the older of the two were killed. his name is tamerlan tsarnaev. he is 26 -- was 26 years old. it's his brother. the man said to be wearing the white hat who got away and has been pursued by authorities. he drove the car jacked suv for
me now, nbc news justin correspondent pete williams and michael leiter. pete, ha have you learn about the bombs themselves? >> well, what we're told by authorities, andrea, is that they're crudely made. they appear to have been assembled inside a pressure cooker. it may be some of our younger viewers don't know what that is, but in the olden days when you wanted to make something tender, you put it in this pot with a tight lid on it. and the steam wouldn't escape and you could build up pressure and things cook faster in them. the premicrowave days. inside a pot like this, a pressure cooker is assembled the device. it includes a low-power explosive. something like black or smokeless powder, gun powder, if you will. not a high explosive like dynamite or a plastic explosive or the common tatp, which seems to be the one of voice of terrorists when they build bombs, terror bombs overseas. so it's crudely made, it's set off they believe by some kind of electronic timer. it's carried to the scene, they believe, in some kind of back pack and then just set down before the devices go off. unfor
, as pete williams and myself have been reporting all day, there is no suspect. there is no arrest. there is no specific name. now, we've been told that there have been several names out there that obviously they would want to run them down but we've been told that it's ruled out. the investigation is ongoing, moving forward. the piece of tape is one of many critical pieces that they are using to try to track suspects but right now no arrests. >> tell me how that's done. you're being looking at a piece of video, you enlarge it, try to improve its fidelity, its picture? what do you do? you look at the wanted posters? how do you identify -- do you look through mug shots? how do you find that person? >> the technology has improved tremendously in terms of facial recognition technology and they are using that matching images on video at the scene to any faces that might be in databases and running that to see if there's any sort of match. another way is, okay, here's an image that we've got. let's go back to others who we know that were at the scene and who were at businesses nearby an
correspondent pete williams. pete, i'd like to go to you first, given what the president just said coming out and saying it is an act of terror does not come as much of a surprise, given the contours of this. but still something worth remarking on in terms of how the white house is handling this event. >> perhaps so. but this is a case of you know, do as i say, not as i do. or perhaps actions speak louder than words, is what i meant. the very fact that it was announced last night that the fbi was taking the lead in this investigation answered the question. because the fbi has jurisdiction in a case like this only if it's considered an act of terrorism. we crossed that bridge last night. with the words were used or not. in terms of the investigation, let's just clear up a couple of points that were confusing overnight. just two devices, there was a suggestion there were others because so many packages had to be destroyed. there was mixed information about whether any of them campaigned explosives, they did not. sports are starting to learn more about the kproe significance of the bomb. how it
it into a makeshift memorial. >>> and more detailsy dzhokhar tsarnaev. nbc news justice correspondent pete williams is on the case with the latest in the investigation. pete, what are we learning now? what are the ratest, first of all, from dzhokhar tsarnaev, and do they believe he and his brother were lone wolfs? >> you may recall that the charges against him were actually filed under seal on sunday, he had his initial appearance in the hospital on monday, and as far as we know, they haven't attempted to re-interview him since then. he's getting with his lawyers, trying to figure out how to proceed. in essence his's confessed already. he's told authorities that he and his brother did it, he's given a reason why, their opposition to the wars in iraq and afghanistan, which think thought were attacks on islam. and he said they were not inspired by foreign countries or foreign interests that they came up with this plot on their own, and that's largely what he said. there are other little details. so i think it will be a while yet before they're able to talk to him any more. >> we're hearing there was
in the boston marathon bombing case, pete williams joins us from washington, pete, this is big news in the sense it looks like we can at least understand vaguely what the suspects had vaguely in mind for their future? >> i think two vagus is correct here, chris, because what the authorities say, both the police commissioner in new york a and the mayor and the officials we've talked with is that this is -- remember, these are two people that the fbi says really had no escape plan. they really didn't seem to know what they were going to do after the pictures were shown on thursday night. friday, they hijack an suv. and he says while they were driving around they say they suddenly came up with the idea in the car as they were driving perhaps going to times square and detonating some of the six or seven bombs that they had left in the car. they had one of their pressure cooker bombs and then a couple of pipe bombs. and then of course, they ended up throwing the pressure cooker bomb at the police when they stopped them in watertown. and whatever plans they had went completely out the window. one of t
when you are steps away from where the explosion happened. that's another experience. pete crawford, he knows what it's like. he was actually mile 26 when the first bomb went off. pete is joining us now. pete, we're so glad, first of all that you're safe, that you're okay. i know as a marathon runner myselfing you get to that point, 26 miles you're almost delusional and delirious. you're not sure what you are seeing and hearing at that point. did you believe that this was real? what did you think it was? >> oh, at the moment i was just trying to get to the finish line. my legs were cramping and i was hurting so bad and i had the finish line zeroed in. with the first explosion went off i thought that's an odd way to be celebrating. the next second i thought, that's not celebrating. that's an explosion. i wonder what's going on. and then a few seconds, and the second explosion goes off. this one was not very far in front of me, you know, probably it was on the left-hand side, of course, and the side right in the middle of a group of spectators on the sidewalk and explosion was huge, fireb
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as they come in. you see all the yellow vests of first responders. remember how many were already there. pete williams, our justice correspondent, pete, sadly, as i keep saying, we have way too much expertise in explosives and terrorism investigation over these past ten years. let us hope that we can put that to good use very quickly here. >> reporter: i think it's already turning out to be that way, brian. first of all, the initial analysis that there were two devices that went off and two more that they quickly found. now, what they're going to be doing now, of course, is proceeding on several tracks. there'll be a team of people who will go in there and try to pick up every little piece that they can of these devices. we believe for sure they were devices that went off. we don't know how much they're going to be able to get out of the other two. it appears that they very quickly in the term they use is rendered them safe. meaning that they shoot a high velocity, extremely short pulse water cannon at them to blow them up. we don't know how much look they got at them before that happened. in
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